The kids in my school hate everyone who aren't jews or even if there jews hate themif

[PrUnE]

The kids in my school hate everyone who isn't a jew or even if ur a jew hate you if ur gay, black, lesiban, basically democrat (even though they don't know the difference with the political parties) I was over hearing a conversation, well an argument for bush or kerry and all the sudden it changed to blacks shouldn't have rights those f**king N!***** should all die, and those f**king homosexals dont deserve to live and those f**kin democrats are so f**king stupid they have no clue what there talking about, and those f**king Muslims should all f**king die, i dont care if they haven't done anything, you should kill their babies when there born, and everyone different then us are just stupid i***ots who dont know what they are talking about, never did, and never will.

O yes kids around 14-17 know it all huh?

[Comfortably Dumb]

Racism is only normal. There's nothing wrong with it. Everyone is racist. Even you.

[whuknu]

of course- we are teenagers- we think we know everything- well im jk- i know i know almost nothing. but either way that is some crazy argument u heard. I cant believe ppl would say such things. I honestly dont know if i would vote democrat or republican but for either party-those things are really unwelcome (in my opinion). But there is a freedom of speech. But ppl should still be careful about what they say- but we are teenagers, and usually not very good at being careful- there was conversation here a while ago about those of us that felt we sed something that didnt fit after the fact.

[Comfortably Dumb]

People are too touchy about racism nowadays. What is exactly so horrible about it? Hmm? Hate is a normal emotion, is it not? God didn't create diversity for people to love each other.

[whuknu]

I dont think that God created diversity for ppl to hate eachother- but rather so that we can learn from one another and love eachother. if God wanted us to hate eachother- that would not be the reason for the destruction of the second beit hamikdash. but fine lets leave that out of this- bring a more current issue up- is there anyone who agrees with me that if we jews could put all of our diferences behind us, that then we could defeat the problems we have today (israel, etc)? Doesnt anyone else think that its bc we hate eachother that we have these problems? we dont know how to work together. while hate is a normal emotion, i strongly feel that it should only only only be used when one truly feels it. not just bc 'oh that person is black now i hate him' but more bc 'that person did something absolutely unforgivable and the only thing i feel for him/her is hate' - the emotion should not come bc of the color of someone's skin, religion, or things of the sort. in fact no feeling for someone else should be like that. love should also be felt for reasons other then color of skin and religion and things like that. But no, I believe that God most certainly did not create the world for us to hate eachother- but rather for us to love eachother

[PrUnE]

Racism only leads to bad things, nothing and i mean nothing good comes from hate, I advise you to see the movie American History X, in the movie a guy becomes a neo-nazi and kills three black guys, and is sent to jail for three years, and discovers how wrong he is. Now when he gets back home is brother ends up getting murdered because of the whole rasicim, and in the movie The Believer the neo-nazis just kills jews randomly, is that good? nothing good ever comes from hate, if no one hated each other there would be no war. People hate Jews because there different is that right? Is it right to hate someone because they have a different skin color? Is it right to hate a man because he loves another man or a woman because she loves another woman? The answer is simply NO, only bad things come from hate, why do you think the Holocaust happened, because ppl hated Jews for being different are you sayin that thats fine? Only bad comes from hate, and if any issues should be "fought" for in our schools it should most definitily be racism.

[PrUnE]

People are too touchy about racism nowadays. What is exactly so horrible about it? Hmm? Hate is a normal emotion, is it not? God didn't create diversity for people to love each other.of course he did, he made it so that we learn to love one another, especially people who are different then us, why should we only love ppl the same as us and hate ppl who are different? that means everyone should hate everyone because everyone is an individual and no one is the same, good day.

[Comfortably Dumb]

Oh, yes. God created the World for us to love each other. Great observation. That's why we have the KKK, Skinheads and other hate groups.

[PrUnE]

Oh, yes. God created the World for us to love each other. Great observation. That's why we have the KKK, Skinheads and other hate groups.If there is a god, he would have created it for us to love eachother not for hate, that doesn't mean he would have taken away the free will of people, he gives people free will that doesn't mean its the right thing to do, i can grab a gun and blow a persons head of, cause i have free will, but does that make it right? I can smoke pot does that make it right? I can do many bad things does that make it right? obvoisuly not, because ppl do that wrong things doesnt make it right.

[Comfortably Dumb]

We have no free will. We're just a planet of playthings who dance on the strings of powers we cannot perceive.

[whuknu]

of course we have free will- if we didnt have free will we would still be living in gan eden! bc humans hagve free will-adam and chava ate from the tree they were told not too- God didnt send ppl down to earth and tell them- create the kkk- they did that out of their own free will. maybe God sends someone (who purely has free will) but god knows they will do something bad- so He sends them to punish others...

[Comfortably Dumb]

All preordained. A prisoner in chains. A victim of venomous fate. Kicked in the face.You can't pray for a place in heaven's unearthly estate. You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill

[whuknu]

so there u go- u just chose! u cant choose with out free will- u proved ur self wrong! i used to think everything was preordained. but i realized that it cant be. u cna choose to post on the lockers. maybe God does know whats going to happen next, but I dont think He necessarily plans it- its a very difficult conspet to understand- God in general is very dificult to undestand- but we were talking about hate- So I do not believe in the possibilty that God created the world to hate.

[Comfortably Dumb]

We are the Priests of the Temples of Syrinx. Our great computers fill our hallowed halls.

[The Nameless One]

G-d created the emotion hate, as a test for us, once we can overcome Sinat Chinam we will be Zoche the Beit Hamikdash being rebuilt. Besides the fact that if you do dislike someone it should be because of something they did 2 you. Being a different skin color or religeon isn't something they did 2 you and it's no reason to hate somebody.
G-d knows what we will choose, but he gives us the option anyway so that we feel that we have the option to do what's right. If you have a choice between eating non kosher or skipping lunch till later, G-d knows what you will pick, but you still have to make that choice. In your case G-d knows that ur gunna be prjuduce agains ppl who are poor, or sick, and ppl who r different skin colors, but he gives you the choice of changing your mind and deciding that you're being wrong.

[Confuzedinlimbo]

As for the free will discussion, i think that god knows how we will react in every given combo of experiences. for example, (and this is on a very basic level) he knows that whenever you fail a test you take a milkey way bar and that you havent for the last three tests you've failed but that this combo of situations (stress of the diet going on for however many weeks combined with the two tests placed in the order that they came t you) will break you and make you take a milkey way bar. god didnt tell you to start a diet or not to study, those were choices you made on your own. but he is able to look in the future and see you taking the candy and he is able to tell that this combo of situations will break you.

prune-i feel for you. you seem to be very profound while you descrbe your school as being full of ignorant people. sux. as i put oin another one of my posts to you (see under "goths"), many people are willing to bash what they dont understand. you should understand both sides fully before arguing.