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teen16
10-07-2003, 10:40 AM
u wanna know what stress is? try functioning on 5 hours of sleep a night. try putting in 10 hr days. try it when yer 15! u guys are so screwed up. i was hearing parents talking in shul when i was 8 about the hw load on us, and how it has to change.

wow u guys are so good at talking. does itmake u feel good? i hope so, b/c drugs and sex and any outlet i can find for the stress u put on me makes me feel good!!

Bongo_Dude
10-07-2003, 05:07 PM
Whoa someone needs a good massage. Seriously, I know stress (try three AP's in eleventh grade without lunch so I had ten straight classes a day). I dont think you have to use sex and drugs as an outlet for that kind of stuff. I dont know - go to music or drawing (corny, yes but its better than the other stuff) and use it to get away from the world. Just a suggestion, and a massage would probably do you some good.

- B.D.

why all this
10-12-2003, 05:56 PM
well as bongo_dude said about maybe try drawing or somthing of that sort.......that can be a suggestion but at the same time it can just bring more aggravation. if your trying to do somthing in order to relief some of the overload of h.w. find somthing that you do well cause if you do somthing that isnt so easy for you to do its only ganna bring more and more stress and get you more frantic. but i know exactly where your coming from with all this work. im a junior now and ive allways had atleast 3 free periods a day until this yr. this yr i have class every single period and not one break. i have psat's and sat's this yr and teachers still feel that they can pile on as much work as any other yr. besides for the fact that ive never really takin school work so seruisly until now its a pain in the *** for me and ive only experianced it for about 2 months. i dont think adults grasp so much or remember how stressed they were with sat's and how nervous they were all yr until they took the test. teachers ignore the fact that this one test decides a whole big chunk of my future and the path my life takes. teachers have to adjust their classes to the situation of the students. not just to how they feel they can fit all the info in for the yr. we are the ones that have to understand it and if were under to much pressure from work and all it will only go in one ear and come out the other.

Bongo_Dude
10-12-2003, 11:20 PM
Why, I think you are right. I was in your position last year, and the adults dont care too much. They just expect you to shoulder the burden and deal with it. Good luck to all of us, and the key is managing your time well. I'm sure uve heard it tons of times, but its true and it works

- B.D.

raistlin
10-15-2003, 11:04 PM
yeah, managing your time works wonders. Thing it, tho, i don't see this situation changng any time soon. the teacher's all say it's not their fault, that they're part of a bigger picture, that we need to get certain stuff jammed in our heads to do well on tests to get into a good college where we can start learning for real.

I hate to admit it, but I think that's a strong argument, and it's not like a bunch of yeshiva high school teachers can change the whole world order. All teens have the same problems (but not all teens have a dual curriculum). There's got to be something the can let up on tho. I'll keep thinking, if i have time :)

Bongo_Dude
10-16-2003, 11:52 AM
The key to whether something can give is what you feel the focus of your education is. If you think you have to keep the Judaism strong (for dual curriculum people), then you can't give too much on the religious side without compromising those values. If you feel that the focus is to get into college and be successful, then I guess you could give in the religious areas, but I think it still reflects on your values as a person (I think this whole values shtick is coming from the other topic, lol). Another thing to think about - maybe the point of all this work is to help us learn to manage our time. I have a lot friends who are now in college who say that because of all the work they had in High School that they are having a much easier time in college. Maybe it works.

- B.D.

jak30r
10-21-2003, 09:19 PM
I feel the same way about all the stress, but no matter how many times i've complained to people about it nothing changes, so i've learned to just deal with it, though i don't think thats the right answer. any suggestions?
-jak

the shiznat
10-21-2003, 09:39 PM
i hear you guys. im getting all of this damn work in skool, and i work, and i try but someitmes it duznt work out for the best. best of all some of my teachers tell me they will fail me! one teachers says to me "i see some summer skool in your future" or " yeah im unfair, and i know it." and best of all "yes i am trying to fail you guys" my teacher actualy told us that! then there is all of the social stress. trying to also be social and have fun....all of this sress just leads to depression.

Bongo_Dude
10-26-2003, 10:50 PM
well about stress leading to depression I'm not so sure, but it definitely increases when the teachers exacerbate the situation. If it is making you depressed then talk to someone - at that point its more than just a matter of time organization. Take it easy, gets lots of sleep, and hopefully itll work out in the end

- B.D.

raistlin
11-01-2003, 11:57 PM
one word - caffeine (sp?)

It's unhealthy, it's cheating, it'll make your limbs start to shiver eventually, but it'll work. It'll keep you up and workng when you need to, you'll get stuff done, and you can do detox over the summer. and then of course get hooked again when the year starts. but never take a pill - just coffee or soda. It's the only way to do it - like cliff notes in english.
unless someone else has a better idea.

Bongo_Dude
11-02-2003, 09:52 AM
ur spelling is right. I dont think its the ONLY way to do it. I, for one, detest coffee and I just try to be as effecient as possible. I can easily get through a day on six hrs of sleep, as long as I get my 12 fri night and my 9 sat night. Then I'm set. as raist said, caffeine is unhealthy, and yes, I have used coffee on several occasions when I didnt get the sleep I needed, but efficiency is really the best answer. Why poison yourself?? I mean, shiznat, if its driving you to depression then you definitely should use it, but i think you should try to avoid it at all costs.

- B.D.

Digital Messiah
12-07-2003, 10:39 PM
strange thing is caffine never works for me, im not sure what it is but no matter how much i drink i can still fall asleep at the desk.
so im also asking for other suggestions on how to stay up

Bongo_Dude
12-08-2003, 08:46 PM
well you might be dirinking too much caffeine and therefore not subject to its normal effects. One way I stay awake in class is to eat light snacks or lollypops. sure it might annoy the teacher, but its better than me snoring ;-). Hope it works, and gl

- B.D.

kiyara
12-09-2003, 04:54 PM
lol - eat lollypops- good thinkuing! I can just imagine the slurping...

I have this one teacher that lets us eat anything at all openly, except for gum. Anyways, about the sleeping issue- have u ever realize d that sleeping with your head on your desk and your butt on a chair is so freakin uncomfortable - yet it still gets you to sleep!! Anyways, I have a different problem that Im probably the onyl one, but Ill say it anyway.

I have a lot of work, I am always tired in school/class, getting up so early, etc, but I go to sleep early. never past 11:30 - usually between 10:30 and 11. And when I do lie down in bed, i am very tired. But after about 20 minutes of lying there, my body is like rested, and I cant sleep , and sometimes im not tired anymore, until i get up and start walking around. eventually i fall asleep, and usually wake up a few times during the night - sometimes not falling back asleep, and when i get up at 7 for school, i am sooo tired like i am gonna faint, as if i went to sleep at 3. Help! And i dont eat chocoalte, caffeine, or anything in the evening.

Bongo_Dude
12-10-2003, 07:21 PM
You might have some form of insomnia (in all seriousness). Maybe you should go see a doctor about it

sweetgirl12237
12-11-2003, 08:23 PM
kiyara, i have the same issue and it soudns lieka form of insomnia jsut one thign DO NOT START TAKING PILLS TO GO TO SLEEP... i did that and became addicted to benadril and it took me forever to get off of it! seriously go see a doctor about it and they can perscribe meds that are non addicting or help you figure out a way to do things.. another trick is to go to a shrink.. yes a shrink and learn some mental relaxation techniques (i.e. hypnotism, stress release) it soudns liek a bunch of crap btu they relaly work.. i did it and i learned how to hypnotise myself and it helps me relax and many times fall asleep... good luck and i hope this helps

StarryEyes
12-11-2003, 11:40 PM
wow am i right there with all of you guys, i cant tell you how much stress i constantly have balled up inside of me. im totally obsessed with college, and there isnt a second of the day when im not thinking about it. i think a huge problem with the way teens are treated today is that at school we are faced with the mentality that college is everything, at least, i am. i talked to my parents and they said that when they were growing up, being a teen wasnt as academically strenuous. i was born in the wrong decade!!! i seriously need to chill...
(sleep is the best medicine... too bad i dont get any of that)
-Starry

SuperSaiyan3
12-12-2003, 01:01 AM
just quit stop doing work and mooch off other people your entire life....im telling you its a good strategy several of my friends older brothers are very succesful....they should make a college course on procrastination and ability to use others to your advantage

kiyara
12-12-2003, 12:53 PM
Well it may be insomnia, but it may have to do with other stuff going on in my life right now - plus I have never been a great sleeper. And it does vary, some nights work out all right, although for some reason I always wake up around 3,4, or 5, and have to go to the bathroom - i never had to before. maybe my bladder is weakening. Anyways, I never really took pills, except once i had tylenol pm, once a benadryl, and i tried nyquil but only when i actually had a cold. those things ddnt really work though. the tylenol pm is ok though. but we dont have those like out and available at my house so, yea. but thanks for the warning!

And I actually DO see a therapist. But self-hypnosis? that sounds kind of far-fetched. How is it done, what do you do? And as for those relaxation techniques I hate them. They dont work for me, all the breathing and mind clearing and tensing and untensing muscles. They just get me thinking about more stuff and i cant do the deep breathing for long enough, ever.

TheBlueGreenMystery
12-14-2003, 11:23 AM
actually, just for your information, this may not sound true, BUT
an apple is MORE EFFECTIVE at keeping you awake than caffeine. eat an apple in the morning if ur tired, or at night if u need help staying up.
plus, its healthier.

kiyara
12-14-2003, 01:11 PM
for real-? I often have apples at night because I like always want to eat, and an apple at least is like a neutralizer thats healthy...

Why would they keep you awake? The calories/energy?

StarryEyes
12-14-2003, 05:02 PM
that apple thing is actually a really good idea, got any more staying awake tips?

yao1124
12-14-2003, 09:34 PM
i havent been getting much sleep lately and its not like i dont try to sleep i just end up laying in bed till forever and never get any sleep, is there anything i can do?

TheBlueGreenMystery
12-14-2003, 09:55 PM
i have no idea. but i do know its scientifically proven

TheBlueGreenMystery
12-16-2003, 10:28 PM
hmmm... more staying awake tips.. well caffeine works but not as well as an apple, and if you take a shower before you do whatever u wanna do (not a hot shower, just a lukewarm one, b/c i doubt ull do a cold shower) then ull stay awake for a while. if i think of anything else ill tell you

Gingyish
12-24-2003, 09:52 PM
for me, putting music on with a fast beat worx 2 keep me awake like rock... or eating ice cream! i also hate coffee, so lately i've resolved 2 mint sucking candies that burn ur mouth off and keep the concentration 4 studying going.

raistlin
12-25-2003, 08:38 PM
Fast music would work if I didn't have other people in the house. Truth is, sometimes I just throw my hands in the air and say "Screw it, I need to sleep." Usually I pay for that, but at least the morning after I feel ok. I still suggest coffee even if you hate the taste. Also, try geting up and walking around. Go downstairs or whatever, but do NOT turn on the TV - because you will not turn it off.

yao - if you want to fall asleep drink warm milk. I'm serious. I works.

kiyara
12-25-2003, 09:25 PM
for the last 3 nights i have been drinking a cup of warm milk about a half hr before i go to bed, and well, has it worked? maybe. maybe not. nothing so obvious though:(

TheBlueGreenMystery
12-27-2003, 10:36 PM
lol @ kiyara. like put it in microwave for 35 sec it hould be warm enought hat u can tell it warm, but not hot. and u should drink it slowly

muzic_n_movies
12-27-2003, 11:12 PM
Wow, I was reading through all those posts and I could have sworn I said those exact things to someone else recently. It's nice knowing other people have the same problem as me. In past years I used to get so stressed out over work - I'd cry myself to sleep a lot just because I couldn't deal with it (I just admitted I cried myself to sleep, oh god), but last year I decided one night that it just wasn't worth it anymore. I've mellowed out a lot now and I find it's a lot easier to get my work done with an apathetic attitude. If you don't make grades the center of your life, then a) sometimes you are more likely to get things when you dont try to get them so hard, and b) if you don't get what you want your life isn't over. People who say that their life depends on how they do in school are overachievers, unless you really are failing out of school, in which case I'd suggest focusing on a couple of courses - better to do well in 2 classes than to fail misserably in them all. As for methods of staying awake, falling asleep, and stress relief, I've never had a problem staying awake, so I can't offer advice there. Actually, that causes a problem for me - I'm always so awake that I can never fall asleep. It takes me on average a couple of hours to fall asleep once I get into bed, and since my bus picks me up so early I really can't afford to lose those hours of sleep. I don't know what I do that whole time - I guess I just have a lot on my mind and I've tried various tricks to stop thinking about things but they never work. As for that self-hypnosis thing that someone mentioned earlier, I tried it once for something else - a teacher taught me how: basically for 5 minutes before you get into bed and for 5 minutes right when you wake up, focus on what you want to accomplish. So let's say you are trying to get over an AIM addiction, you'd literally talk to yourself and say for five minutes "I will not talk on AIM for a long time today" and really concentrate on what you're saying. Personally, it worked for a couple of weeks and then it stopped because it occured to me that I was talking to myself and then I'd start cracking up and it lost its effect. I suppose you could always try it for sleeping, I don't know how well it will work though. As for stress relief, listen to music - serriously. Lie in bed and blast your music so loud that you can't think about other stuff. And if there are other people in the house then use headphones. Try it sometime.

Muzic_n_Movies

StarryEyes
12-29-2003, 03:07 PM
if you want caffeine, but dont like the taste of coffee, have a soda. it works the same, plus you get a sugar rush.
also gum helps. the chewing motion... or a taffy or something since its sweet should help too.

i got issues
12-29-2003, 05:29 PM
How f***ing sick is this? we are talking about methods to stay up and do work. THe people running schools these days have to be stopped. THey are ruining teenagers lives. A wise man once said, "life is meant to be enjoyed so make the most of it while you can". With the current system, we didnt enjoy our younger years because those we were just slaves to our parents. Now, when we are independant, we have a say but we a bogged down in work and papers and no sleep so we cant enojoy ourselves now. We are going to go off to whereveer and start working. We will never be able to enjoy life at this rate. Later in life, if things dont change, i am going to look back and rememebr how my High School principal ruined my whole life. We cannot make anything of it while we still have it because of school. School is very important but the double curriculum has to be taken to a point and no further.

i got issues
12-29-2003, 05:31 PM
Also, since you are there to fight for us, rabbi, since i assume you are going to be in contact with people in respect to this thread, i ask you to please show them these threads. Even though they are High school principals, i still think they have hearts but not hearts to listen to some 30's rabbi who knows our issues. Even though we know you care, the principals probably think that the things you are saying arent real issues. If you show them what we are really saying, it will hit more to home since they really see us everyday and work with us.
Thank You
I got issues

Icegal104
12-29-2003, 05:46 PM
we really have to tell someone about the insane homework load that we get at school.
its soo damn insane!!!!!
rabbi, i really think like i got issues that this is an important issue that should go to the principals of our schools.
i have no social life espically now with midterms coming up its so damn annoying that i'm always locked up at home doing school- work instead of enjoying myself with my friends!!!!

Iceprincess88
12-30-2003, 03:38 PM
i agree with every1 that we get too much hw
but who do we go to here for help?
hoepfully, they will realize that were all complaining about the workload and maybe they will stop making our lives he*l and cut down on the workload!

i got issues
12-30-2003, 09:32 PM
Well, supposedly the rabbi and the other moderators talk to the proncipals and stuff and talk about these issues. I sent them a post to send this thread to the schools and i hope they do because the serious work this much has to stop.

Icegal104
12-30-2003, 09:52 PM
i really hope that the modrators and rabbi really DO something about this!!!!!
~I Luv Ice~

StarryEyes
12-31-2003, 12:36 AM
ew you guys are right, this is terrible, were high school teens and were discussing methods on how we can stay up in order to... do homework and study?? whats wrong with this picture?! something needs to be done. i dont know about you guys, but this problem isnt really prevalent in my school just because most of the kids in my school dont necessarily work their tushies off like i do. what happens in my school is that the honors classes get tons and tons of sick nasty intense neverending piles of homework, while my friends in the other classes tell me "wow my classes are such jokes i never get any work" blah blah blah. meanwhile, im stuck with all of this work... grrr something needs to be done. theyre trying to kill the honors kids or something.
anyways, my point was that i dont think that my school notices, or actually does anything about it because its only the few kids in honors classes that have these problems... which is really annoying because theyre telling us that its only a problem if it affects the school on a larger scale and that they dont really care about the individuals.
well, i need the administration to make some serious changes because im not sure how much more of this i can endure.

-Starry :mad:

p.s. im not saying that the students in the other classes that i mentioned dont work hard, i know some of them that do work hard, all i was saying is that in my school a lot of the kids just care about "getting by" in the lower classes and dont bother doing work. i do acknowledge that there are some very hardworking students in lower classes.

kiyara
12-31-2003, 04:18 PM
we all know we have a lot of pressure and work, and the schools know it too. but they arent feeling it constantly, or currently, so they just go with it b./c a certain curiculum has to be memorized(tought, if ur lucky) and thats the way it is.

I personally would never go to sleep insanely late to do schoolwork..i just do what i think needs to be done before 10, b/c my body will not do stupid hw after around 10. then i chill out, go online, talk on the phone. whatever....I care a lot about grades but I will never jeapardize my health/personal well being/life to do schoolwork. thats just not the way life is going to be.

if somethings not done and i need to go to sleep, that teacher will just have to waste energy yelling at me the next day, and thatll be it.

StarryEyes
01-01-2004, 12:50 AM
lol its not about teachers yelling at me. in my classes teachers stopped yelling at us about homework years ago. its not the yelling its the falling behind. i miss one night and its virtually impossible to catch up. it sets of this cosmic domino effect. its terrible. besides, the whole point in homework is to know it for the test. its really tests and papers that i stay up so late studying for.

its great that you can stop by 10, for me, i get home around 830 anyways bc of extra curriculars so.. i mean theres no way i can finish everything by then. work that needs to get done needs to get done and thats that. i wish that i could just stop, but i couldnt let myself fall behind like that. if it was that important that i be up studying i wouldnt be able to sleep in the first place.

*sigh* story of my life

-Starry :rolleyes:

CptCatz
01-01-2004, 09:46 PM
strange, i rarely get any homework. well maybe i do but i just dont do it. i dont know, somehow i just never end up doing homework. and yeah starryeyes, im in all the low classes simply because i dont care. as peter in office space would say "its not that im lazy, its just that i dont care. its a matter about motivation. one would work just hard enough not to get fired". well in my case it works the same. im not motivated. i know no matter what grades i get, im going to end up living the same life and i will just work hard enough not to fail so i can stay on the basketball team. go read my thread called "just forget about it"

StarryEyes
01-01-2004, 10:37 PM
right on Cpt- office space is the BEST movie ever!!
anyways, sometimes i wish i could just "stop" caring.. but its whats important to me.. maybe im too "motivated" as you put it before, i dont know.. but no matter how many times i try to reevaluate everything... this is where i want to end up, so i must be doing something right.

to use office space.. theres that scene where theyre talking about how in high school, their guidance counselor would ask them to pretend they won the lottery and say what they would do with their life. whatever they said, that would be what they were supposed to do (as a profession). so i thought about it and i came to the conclusion that i would still be busting my a$$ to get into college and get the job i want, etc. so i guess that tells me that my goals are set, so i gotta go for em. too bad that means sleep deprivation for meee
Starry

CptCatz
01-02-2004, 12:07 AM
yeah see my answer to that question is nothing. i would do nothing (but im hoping not to work an initech). but yeah, i LOVE doing nothing. today for example i woke up at 1 pm, ate lunch, watched tv, played some gamecube, watched some more tv, ate dinner, watched more tv, and here i am now. and for all that watching tv, that uncludes being on the internet because i got my tv right behind my computer. so yeah, thats what i love doing. i did that for the past two summers also. and the good thing is, you dont need money to do nothing.

StarryEyes
01-02-2004, 02:23 AM
lol looks like you wont be buyin any lottery tickets. have fun with that... by the way working at initech is the same as doing nothing. except you get to use swingline staplers and that always kicks ***
by the way since this website is for things that piss us off, the fact that they star out the word *** is not cool, *** is not a curse word. what if i was trying to say donkey? like i was riding my *** down in the village and stopped by another group of asses that were drinking water. so it was a mass *** gathering. and *** parties are always soo much fun. see that story looks like i was cursing off, but really i was just trying to talk about my donkies. *sigh*
i am way too tired right now.. i should go to sleep.
night all.
Starry

kiyara
01-02-2004, 12:28 PM
well cptcatz, I personally am unable to watch so much tv bc i get antsy, it gets boring, and i eat a LOT. And I dont have cable, so that really limits me.

But Im surprised your parents let you do nothing like that all summer!
Why do they? I mean I am not saying that they shouldnt let you, i am jewlous, b/c my parentd always make me be busy going to camp or working or something.

CptCatz
01-02-2004, 02:33 PM
well i did want to go to this one camp but it was $3500 for 3 weeks and my parents thought it was too much money so they didnt send me there. they really could care less what i do as long as it doesnt cost them money.

Mr. X
01-03-2004, 10:30 PM
Just recently I started having that same uncaring philosophy. I'm a junior with a career 3.4 GPA and in my most important year of high school. So in the beginning of December, about 4 months before the SAT's, the biggest test I will take up to date, I think about school and all work as "eh.... I don't care anymore". Like I'm in school, I'm sleeping through the day sometimes, I try to leave class as much as possible, be very inattentive, and only really pay attention when I need to so I can get a basic idea of what is going on if I choose to cram for a test. Like with school, I don't know, it may have been the prospect of vacation coming up, but I feel like my last few weeks in school I just stopped caring, and that over this vacation I just made myself stupider by the day. I feel like I'll be in for a nice big shock when I walked back through the school doors on Monday.

StarryEyes
01-04-2004, 12:10 AM
i don't get what the point of doing that is... being inattentive and all? i mean don't you feel like you're wasting your time. i mean i hate to sound like a teacher/adult/parent/anal teenager.. but don't you think that since you gotta be there in school anyways, it just makes more sense to just pay attention and maybe get something out of it? i mean i understand you're not wanting to do homework... although all of this might blow up in your face one day... but i don't get what the point of being bored once you're actually in school.
oh well.
another thing, just be careful with this whole "i don't care" attitude... you might end up really pissed off because you didn't realize what your real priorites were until it was too late. well, good luck with all of that.

Starry

Mr. X
01-04-2004, 01:11 AM
the thing is i know i have a problem. i know i need to care, but i just don't see the motivation. i really don't know if i can get anything out of the next year and a half of education in high school, and i just find my mind drifting due to boredom and the lack of caring. yes, i know i may regret this, but i just don't feel it right now.

StarryEyes
01-04-2004, 02:10 AM
Hmm, I actually know where you're coming from... I'll always care about my schoolwork(maybe a little too much) but I have this awful tendency of procrastinating. I know it's a problem, but I can't stop, so yes, i can relate

Anyways, on to your problem. You'll get something out of your upcoming year and a half of education if you put just a little bit more effort into it, I promise. Listen, there must be at least one subject that you have an interest in. English? History? whatever... but try really focusing on it. If it's something you enjoy, then trust me, if you put your heart into it, you'll get something out of it. Also, it's not just your classes is it?
You're just indifferent in general it sounds like. If you find one thing you're interested in, and I mean really have a passion for, it'll ignite that spark for you. I don't know what extra-curriculars you participate in, but if you're on a team or in a club, really try to put your energy into that, it'll work once you start remembering why you care about it and how much you love it.
If you don't do anything, you really should join a club/team whatever, it's great for this lack of motivation you've been having, it also looks great on college apps, and if you enjoy doing it, it's fun.
I'm a huge advocater of extra-currics because they really save my life at some points....

Also, if you don't want to / if it isn't working for you then you should start a kind of 'project' at home. I know that sounds kind of weird but seriously... there must be something you've always wanted to do... like write, or paint, or make a video documentary thingee (okay i know totally random but i took a video production class in camp) anyways you know what i mean... just find something that you actually want to do and get off your lazy a$s and do it!!

oh and at anytime if you get all lazy and lose focus just shake yourself and be like "YO!! MR.X... GET OFF YOUR LAZY A$S AND MAKE SOMETHING OF YOURSELF...!!!" you get the idea lol.

hope that helped.
-Starry ;)

kiyara
01-04-2004, 04:26 AM
well said Starry, and another thing. Don't automatically assume this applies to you, b/c its for a very small percentage of people. but you know what?
Not everyone fits the mold for the typical yeshiva HS. Esp. when it comes to the higher years when you may have a clearer view of your life. If you have really thought about it, and are honest with yourself, and give it plenty of time trying different methods of getting back into it, you should be aware that there are more options out there.
Like going somewhere, doing something else. getting your GED, i dunno, going to the army...i mean you have options. if your parents and you will open your minds and really stretch them. there are more things in the world than high school.

Mr. X
01-04-2004, 11:22 AM
ok its not like i'm in all the low classes and stopped caring. i'm in honors classes for general studies and 2nd track for judaics. i have some classes where i am awesome in. i have a couple subjects i really really like and in them i am like the most participant, taking all the notes, getting high 90's on the test with ease. and then the rest of the classes i just don't really, and i feel like kiyara explained it well, b/c i don't fit the mold of yeshiva hs. i sleep through my gemara class, i'm barely with it in tanach, and i'm barely ever in my ivrit class. some general studies classes i'm kinda with it, and for the subjects i enjoy, well there i'm really good. basically i realized i can stick with the yeshiva life for the next year and a half (even though i'd rather not, but it'd be kinda weird to switch out after being there my entire life) and go to a nice non-yeshiva college after high school. but yea, i feel like i've just grown out of the yeshiva life and don't think it really fits me

StarryEyes
01-04-2004, 11:44 AM
LOL, .. everyone does that in judaic subjects, its really not your fault if the teachers dont challenge you. but listen... maybe you might wanna switch up into honors where the teachers are better and more challenging. you might enjoy it more.. haha okay you dont wanna do that i know... but its just a thought... its just that things are boring when theyre below your level... wow i really sound like an annoying teacher so im gonna stop.

but i totally understand about not being so into your hebrew subjects, and if youre doing well in those classes while youre sleeping and/or slacking off etc. i still stand by what i said before about extra currics those things are the best
i also don't necessarily fit the "yeshiva mold" as kiyara put it (right on kiyara by the way!!) but really there are sooo many things to appreciate about our school. im serious. i know that sounds like a lot of BS, but if you really look at it, its the most hilarious school EVer... okay i would love to tell you all of the reasons why but we have all of this anonymity stuff.... grrr but all i can say is jst look at all of the ridiculously funny/awesome things that we do (also the fact that we NEVER have a full day of classes because theres a proram every ten seconds) and maybe you'll start to understand.

sigh. aight good luck.
-Starry

kiyara
01-04-2004, 11:49 AM
I hear you. It's a really stuck feeling, because it's almost like feeling "oh, I don't think I am right for my body to live on earth anymore. I just don't fit and it feels like a forced wrong puzzle piece. Put me on MArs." that was kind of farfetched, but I know what you mean, b/c I also in some classes, (and I go to a very hard school, LOTS of work) I just get like a random 100 or high 90's. Then I get all upset when I get like an 88. But It shouldnt be that way, and the fact that you dont care about some and do care about others(general studies) could mean something. maybe for your senior yeear you can do something like RCC honors(I heard of that somewhere...I don't know details but I'm sure someone does.)

Think about it, explore your options.

Mr. X
01-04-2004, 01:51 PM
well also about extra curricular stuff, i am on a few after school things. but like also in some general studies classes i just don't feel it anymore. like i was yawning through physics a few weeks ago and just tuning out. english class i sleep everyday. heck, i sleep through my elective. its more like math and history are the only subjects i actually care about during my 9 hours in school. i seriously live for the weekends now. i go into every week just wanting it to be friday afternoon already. the problem is now i'm getting lazier with my study habits/work, and i gotta really start studying for the SAT's!

Bongo_Dude
01-05-2004, 07:41 PM
O man I remember the SAT's. That was crazy - they took up a ton of time. It was worth it in the end though... anyway, it gets worse (I know u dont want to hear it). The beginning of senior year is essentially hell with college applications and all that, but if u get in somewhere early decision IT IS SO RELIEVING!! Its crazy to think that I'll be out of high school in around four months. In any case, it does get better, the workload will become easier, just wait. Until then, good luck - i know its tough, but its worth it if u go where u want in the end.

- B.D.

StarryEyes
01-05-2004, 09:30 PM
hey, BD, did you get into college and didnt tell us??

sweetgirl12237
01-06-2004, 03:35 PM
yea bd did u?!?!?!

convoluted
04-27-2004, 01:35 PM
Want to hear stress ? i got virtually no extra currics. i got several academic achievements about a 93 avg and im taking 2 real APs Chem & comps and 1 YU AP Jewish Hist. i need extra currics i have no time i have the J.H. AP in a couple of days thats right then Comps and CHEM. And i only go to AP COMPS CLASS ONCE A WEEK!!! if i go at all due to schedule conflicts. Not only this but i also have a regular work load as well plus i need to take the CHEM SAT2s in addition to everything else. Also i need to retake my SATs bc their not high enough to get into anywhere good. AND I HAVE A 12hr Day out of the house on AP DAYS i wake up around 600 and i get home around 630, and 720 on AP DAYS. i only get about 6 hrs sleep.

BUT DESPITE ALL THAT I DONT DO DRUGS OR HAVE SEX. I use the computer and guitar as a stress outlet and i take it in stride! So dont submit to stress.....

Also if anyone has got some extra curric suggestions send em my way. And understand that just about anthing im going to have to start myself because its impossible to get on extra currics in my school.

Nuff Said

heband
04-27-2004, 08:27 PM
If you are really looking for extra ciriculars ou can become a EMT. An EMT is an emergency medical technician (the are the people that ride the ambulance). You have to take a whole lotta class but it is amazing to have on a resume! To get #s or more information just look up the non-emergency # for you local first aid squad. Hope this help (and that you werent being sarcastic!)
Love from Heband

convoluted
04-27-2004, 10:11 PM
Yea well i cant do that being im just a junior, and i dont even have a liscence yet. not to mention i dont do well with medical emergencies. Being that im a slight hypocondriact. But please help still looking for extra curriculars!!!

Trumpkin
04-28-2004, 11:27 PM
I tend to take a nap immediately after I get home from school. Sleep for 2-4 hrs, then do my homeworkk, and then get to sleep.

Caffeinated tea is good. So is chocolate. and sugar...

Oh, and eat starches and things like that. Long term energy, so you'll probably be tired (still), but there's a better chance of your enduring the slog.

LadyOfCarlisle
04-28-2004, 11:34 PM
Are you Trumpkin, like from Narnia?

Trumpkin
04-29-2004, 12:07 AM
All hail His Majesty, King Caspian X! Seriously, though, I wish...

Fantasy's my outlet. Narnia was (I think) my first fantasy. aside from fairy-tales, but that's another story. but anyway, I love Narnia. I ignore the "allegory" theory and just focus and what I feel really goes on. And I'm running onandonandon here, so I'll stop.

LadyOfCarlisle
04-29-2004, 12:18 AM
You should check out "the last of the Renshai" series by Mickey Zucker Reichert

Trumpkin
04-30-2004, 09:07 AM
Thanks for the tip. Will look for it next time I'm at the library.