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other
03-03-2005, 10:57 PM
Tips? Sugestions?

From guys or girls.

2face78
03-04-2005, 12:53 AM
who the hell cares. comfort reigns supreme
IM OUT

WhoAmI
03-04-2005, 09:42 AM
ohter, what do you mean? tips on what- hair, clothes...? does what guys wear really make a difference anyway?

other
03-04-2005, 09:58 AM
ya, stuff like that, i dk, just genral clothing, hair, what not. guys are also intrested in how they look (well, most)

Kinda open ended

lost33
03-04-2005, 12:13 PM
does it really matter, Other, whether what u wear is in style or if poeple like it. i agree with 2face, "comfort reigns supreme". do what you want, not wat u think other people want

AkaSpaZz
03-04-2005, 02:45 PM
who cares, just wear what you want to wear. even if you think some other people (the ones that wear A&F or A&E wont like it) BE YOU...

WhoAmI
03-08-2005, 10:55 PM
why do the ones who wear A&F and A&E seem so superior to me, and so muich better than me? i wanna be me but no matter what i do i have to make sure i fit in and wear the right things in every situation otherwise i feel like an idiot, b/c when i finally 4get it and become myself they accept me, but why am i in such awe of these guys?

2face78
03-09-2005, 01:50 AM
whoami-i dont think fitting in is necissary. i hate the supposed coolest crowd in my grade bci think they are a bunch of dumb ***** who think they are Gods gift to man kind. they arent and i dont give a damn wat they think of me. i am myself and i the reason i dont give a damn wat they think is not because i dont want them to like me bc y would i want to be someones enemy, rather, its that i am comfortable in my own skin so i am being me and if they dont like me then shove it up their ***** but it aint my problem. dont try and wear wtvr they where, dont suck up, just be u and all will be cool. i someitmes wear ae and h clothing bc i like it and the girls for some stupid reason think its cool. im not trying to fit in, i have rules as to when and only whne i buy clothing from those stores and if i am whereing other clothing i dont feel less confident its just wtvr it is considered nicer so y not. but it sure as hell aint no necessity. just wear wtvr and be cool with it.
lost33-i no im a hypocrit for writing a long message (for all others who dont get the joke look at the shomer post in Rabbi P's section)
have good night everyone
IM OUT

Dontknow
03-09-2005, 10:56 AM
why do the ones who wear A&F and A&E seem so superior to me, and so muich better than me? i wanna be me but no matter what i do i have to make sure i fit in and wear the right things in every situation otherwise i feel like an idiot, b/c when i finally 4get it and become myself they accept me, but why am i in such awe of these guys?

bc u let them be. they are not better than u. i dk u but for all i know, u could be so much better then they are. Its not the clothes u wear its who is wearing the clothes. i dont wear clothes that are "in" every day. i cant afford it. girls in my grade have all these nice brand new clothes like every day and i still wear stuff from last yr. so? am i less cool than they are? dont be in awe of these guys. u should be in awe of the guy that doesnt care what his clothing looks like and is a wonderful person even if his clothing r ugly. dont be jealous of those that have more materialistic stuff than u. i know no one wants to hear the be urself story, but its true. if a girl doesnt like u for u, well then why do u want her? why do u want friends to like u cuz of ur clothes? do ur clothes define u?

lost33
03-09-2005, 05:45 PM
hahah 2face please give me some credit here that post was not nearly as long as the shomer ones, it was short u haven't been hypocritical yet hahah but back on topic my problem with all these supposedly "in" clothing and styles is what makes them that? that whole society that spends so much time focusing on what is hot now and what isn't seems to fake to me. i mean why waste all that energy focusing on whether ur clothing are "cool" or not, as long as ur comfortable in what u wear then does it really matter if it comes from the gap or from AF? does the fact that the tags in the back are different really affect so much in ur life?

WhoAmI
03-09-2005, 05:56 PM
no tey dont define me but they amke me think ill have an easier time defining myself, based one ewvry1 else wearing these clothes. appearnece is important... but one Q... the dirty/grunge look? or the pretty boy look?

Dontknow
03-09-2005, 08:36 PM
no tey dont define me but they amke me think ill have an easier time defining myself, based one ewvry1 else wearing these clothes. appearnece is important... but one Q... the dirty/grunge look? or the pretty boy look?

and u dont think its the least bit sad that u must use clothing to define urself? i do. i wouldnt want my bf (if i had one) to be one who defines himself with his clothes. would i want him to look nice and neat instead of like a shlump, yes. but do i care if his shirt is from old navy or from af? not in the least. in fact, a couple of weeks ago i was hanging out with this guy, not so rich or nething. the whole time he was so nice and everything. his shirt was nice, he looked decent looking. his friend, whose a total butthead, came, and this guy started being total jerk. his friend apparently shops at stores like af and this kid i was hanging out with gets his clothes at like old navy. apparetly he was trying to show his friend how "cool" he could be despite his clothes.
uh uh. not cool to me.
but whtvr.

other
03-09-2005, 10:28 PM
idk, i still like looking good, it does something to your self-esteem

Dontknow
03-10-2005, 05:26 AM
idk, i still like looking good, it does something to your self-esteem

u dont seem to understand what i am saying. looking good and wearing the type of clotheing u want to wear are two diferent things. but if u think thats what it takes, even though im telling u from a girls point of view that its not true, then fine. personally i dont want a guy to look better than me lol, im already competing with girls, now with guys to. besides like i sed about that guy, he look good, and he wasnt wearing some designer name.

WhoAmI
03-10-2005, 07:45 AM
see thats how i am... would so do that- when they show up, i just act differently to show im cool despite my clothes. but thats my insecurity

Dontknow
03-10-2005, 11:24 AM
i hate when guys are like that. but if thats how insecure u r, its not an excuse but do what u want. from waht i here, nice guys finish last. i think thats not true but thats what ive been told by guys. maybe im one of the few girls who actually likes nice guys.

WhoAmI
03-13-2005, 11:23 AM
look its not that i feel this way and this insecure to try and impress grls and act wierd to impress grls its just these cool guys that make me feel like i have to show them im cool too. show them im not a nerd whos sheltered form everything about the world, that i know about everything going on. even this shabbat i was around them and my good friends at the same time. my good friends are not ones that i can share my non-shelteredness with and even though im religious and act mature doesnt mean i can have fun. its frustrating.

Comfortably Dumb
03-13-2005, 11:29 AM
This thread reminds me of Zoolander.

Dontknow
03-13-2005, 02:32 PM
well then, most of what i said still goes. look, i kind of know what u mean about being religios and mature but still wanting to have fun. i have that problem often. i am frum, but alot of my friends arent so much. it causes me a few problems. but i work through them. i still dress tzniusly, i still keep my standards. if they dont like that and think its ridiculous that i wear skirts, then thats not cool by me. if thats the case maybe i dont want to be hanging out with them. i had a friend a fw yrs ago, and we stopped talking bc of a few diferent things, one of them was that he wasnt really so respectful of my standards of religious. (he was less than me and whtvr). so a little while back we started hanging out again, and i realize d that he grew up so much. he is sooo much more respectful of me. If your friends dont respect u for u maybe they arent worht being friends with.

lost33
03-13-2005, 02:52 PM
ya i mean it is frustrating that i cant go out and hang out with some of my friends because what they do i wouldn't feel comfortable in that situation religiously, but luckily most of my friends respect me for who i am and for the ideals i live for, if id have to compromise who i was just to "look cooler" then its not worth being friends with some people.

WhoAmI
03-13-2005, 07:21 PM
these arent generally my friends, but ppl i want to be my friends b/c in their initial view of me im frum and sheltered. i dont like when ppl think that. ya know? i want ppl to know that ecven thoughy i knw alot of **** about the world and go through a lot of it i still choose to be jwish. i want them to admire me for that and not write me off as sheltered.

lost33
03-13-2005, 09:08 PM
but people don't respect your Judaism, they don't think of it as a struggle they don't understand it and don't want to have anything to do with it, so they will never respect you for your sacrifices.

lost33
03-13-2005, 09:25 PM
i understand what you are going through i mean its hard enough to be frum in our society as it is, it doesn't help when most teens aren't frum or don't respect those who are, its hard, people will never recognize you for the sacrifices you have made until they too recognize that their is something to Judaism that should be strived for.

WhoAmI
03-13-2005, 10:57 PM
thank you. honestly. i just wanted ppl to understand what i was saying and agree, not tell me to change. thanks

Dontknow
03-14-2005, 04:36 PM
fine then, i understand what ur saying, but i dont agree with it. i thought that this might be a problem for you but if it isnt, then fine. good luck